talking turkey

“But we didn’t get far enough to be talking turkey with any bowls or conferences about the actual format.”

Another definition found in the 1889 "Americanisms, Old & New" had "talking turkey" meaning "To use high-sounding words, when plain English would do equally well or better."

They’re talking turkey in the one-off culinary competition “Battle for the Bird.”

He said the meeting had provided the "crucial moment" for the two leaders to sit in a room, without their staff present, "talking turkey" until they found a way they could move forward.

They’re talking turkey — and mashed potatoes, gravy, stuffing, etc., — in a second season of “Ultimate Thanksgiving Challenge.”