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More than two decades later, Foster chuckled while pondering what might have been had he not been forced to play both ways.

“There’s a real ‘Inception’ quality to writing an emotional arc for an emotion inside someone else’s head while thinking about it in your head,” Holstein says with a chuckle.

The young Lakers coach was about to use a well-worn coaching adage, chuckling at the absurdity of offering a “back in my day” to anyone listening.

It is easy to imagine, somewhere in a Parisian hotel room, Eddie Jones chuckling at the television.

"I think the first time I carried a bag with me was when I was 20, when I actually came to university," says Elena with a chuckle.